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beauty my family is split half my family are super pro-Trump.

Gosh, okay.

So how does that work on the family?

What's that group?

That's like that's nuclear.

Like we just, there's like a tacit agreement that we just don't talk about that.

But that's like with half of my family.

It is deathly silent right now because I think everybody realizes that let's, let's just,

let's not go there. Let's try to keep family harmony. How's Thanksgiving and the Fortson family?

Depends on who's there. Is everyone invited? No, I would say that, you know, we've become pretty

skilled at navigating around the touchy subjects.

It's usually totally fine and civil, but it's been a process to get there.

Hello and welcome to the Times Tech podcast.

I'm Katie Prescott in the city, a very calm city of London compared to where you are, Danny, I'm sure.

Yes, I am Danny. Fortin, Danny in the Valley in Silicon Valley in America.

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