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and the move. And the move. And the move. Hello and welcome back to Big Mood Little Mood. I'm your host, Danny M. Laverie and with me in the studio this week is Marissa Renee Lee.

A called upon Grief Advocate,

entrepreneur, and the best-selling author of Grief

Is Love, Living with Loss.

Marissa, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having me today.

I'm so glad to have you here. I didn't necessarily go seeking out grief-related

questions because that is almost always at least in the background of a lot of the questions that I get asked but I do I do think that a lot of our questions today are going to be very much in your sort of wheelhouse

So I hope that that is not a problem for you and that you feel prepared to talk about grief again.

I've got you covered, so thank you.

Fantastic.

And if we ever need like a brief pause, we can stop and ask for, I don't know know 10 ideas about joy quickly just as a sort of

of palette cleanser but you know grief is the business of life so all right so the

subject of our first letter is sort of orphan.

I'm a non-binary person in my mid-30s, and a few years back my mother finally got divorced.

My father actually divorced her, but still, from my awful narcissistic father.

I've cut contact with him, and that's great, but my problem is my mother.

My father was verbally and emotionally abusive to all of us, and my mom enabled him big time in order to keep the peace.

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