This is Irish Illustrated Insider, brought to by Irish Illustrated.com.

I'm Tim Priest with Pete Sampson and Tim O'Malley, the 60th podcast with this trio as a trio covering Notre Dame football on our podcast.

And it's a big one. Notre Dame versus Michigan State,

the Irish one-in-one. Obviously a very pivotal game for Notre Dame as it relates to any talk of

playoff contention. They have to beat Michigan State. The rivalry with Michigan State, which has

nothing to do with virtually any player on the current team.

Yet it's a topic that's been forced throughout this week.

Nordane v. Michigan State 2016, that in itself is enough to talk about.

Let's put it this way. James Onoalu, the freshman wide receiver, had the biggest role the last time you see.

An incredible block on the Cam McDaniel touchdown that proved to be the game that put

Notre Dame ahead, 17, 13, early in the fourth quarter and proved to be the game winner.

Physical? Have we talked about physicalness?

Physicalness? There's a physicality in this game.

Yeah, very physical.

Michigan State being physical is to the level of Tom Zivakowski boxing.

You just cannot say Michigan State without mentioning physical.

Any question or any answer?

They're not Neanderthals for crying out loud.

Hashtag not Neanderthals.

Yeah, that was great.

A nice charitable description by Brian Kelly in describing Michigan State's athletic ability.

They're not cavemen.

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