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🗓️ 12 April 2025
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0:00.0 | On Wednesday in the Oval Office, as markets reeled and a trade war raged, President Donald Trump signed an executive order that had nothing to do with tariffs. |
0:09.4 | There were some very bad things that happened with these law firms. |
0:12.3 | The law firm in question was Sussman Godfrey, but it was only the latest of many to be singled out and targeted by the president. |
0:19.8 | But they don't admit guilt. Remember that. They don't admit guilt. |
0:23.1 | Law firms had been guilty of, well... |
0:25.7 | In the president's telling, these are firms that have basically done things that are against American interests that harm the United States. |
0:32.8 | That is Ryan Lucas, NPR's justice correspondent. |
0:35.7 | If you talk to people on the other side, the goal, however, is quite different. |
0:38.7 | The law firms that are targeted say that the effort here is to intimidate them, to punish them for the clients that they have represented. |
0:46.2 | One of the clients that Sussman Godfrey represented, for example, was Dominion voting systems, which got a massive settlement from Fox News for its lies about the 2020 |
0:54.8 | election. Other firms had represented Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, or had |
1:00.7 | staff that worked on Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged ties between Trump's orbit and |
1:05.4 | Russia and possible obstruction of justice during Trump's first administration. |
1:09.8 | Now, this work has put them in the crosshairs of |
1:12.5 | the president. Some have fought back. Susman Godfrey, for instance, has filed a lawsuit to try and |
1:18.0 | block the order, but others have cut deals. On Friday, Trump announced that five more law firms |
1:24.0 | had reached deals with the administration in order to avoid damaging executive orders. |
1:29.1 | They had agreed to provide hundreds of millions of dollars in pro bono work for causes that Trump |
1:34.0 | supports. |
1:36.7 | Consider this. President Trump is going after law firms that have opposed him in the past. |
1:41.6 | We will ask what it means for the foundations of the American legal system. |
1:52.4 | From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. |
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