Biden, Psychedelics, Twitter, My New Book — and So Much More

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.6 • 11K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

As I head into a three-month book leave, I wanted to take some time to address a wide array of listeners’ questions. My column editor, Aaron Retica, joins me for a conversation that ranges from the content of my forthcoming book and President Biden’s climate record to the simulation hypothesis and legalized psychedelic therapy. We also discuss what the I-95 collapse — and remarkably quick repairs — tell us about government’s ability to build quickly, the problems with everything-bagel liberalism, what it would mean to treat climate change like the emergency that it is, why I dislike analogies between Biden and Franklin Roosevelt, why health care reform has receded from the center of American political debate, whether liberals are being too soft on Hunter Biden, why I am staunchly against term limits for Congress, what kinds of work are most undervalued in American society, why I’ve become less pessimistic about artificial intelligence disinformation, why I left Twitter but have been enjoying Threads, the challenges of keeping a Sabbath practice and more. This episode contains strong language. Note: Starting next week, “The Ezra Klein Show” will be releasing episodes only once per week, every Tuesday, until Ezra returns from his book leave in early November. These episodes will be hosted by a range of guest hosts. Mentioned: “The Problem With Everything-Bagel Liberalism” by Ezra Klein “The Book I Wish Every Policymaker Would Read” by The Ezra Klein Show, with Jennifer Pahlka “Two Theories of What I’m Getting Wrong” by Ezra Klein “The Greens’ Dilemma” by J. B. Ruhl and James E. Salzman “Not Everyone Should Have a Say” by Jerusalem Demsas We’ve Got You Covered by Liran Einav and Amy Finkelstein “This Is Your Brain on ‘Deep Reading.’ It’s Pretty Magnificent.” by The Ezra Klein Show, with Maryanne Wolf “Elon Musk Got Twitter Because He Gets Twitter” by Ezra Klein “Sabbath and the Art of Rest” by The Ezra Klein Show, with Judith Shulevitz Music Recommendations: “Orange” by Caroline Shaw and Attacca Quartet Fred again..: Tiny Desk Concert on NPR Music “USB” by Fred again.. “Midas” by Maribou State Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact checking by Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Rogé Karma. The show’s production team also includes Emefa Agawu, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

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0:00.0	From New York Times' opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show.
0:23.2	Welcome to the Ask Me Anything episode.
0:25.4	I'm here with my revered editor, the bringer of Gravitas, Aaron Redica.
0:31.0	We've got tons of questions from the hundreds that you all sent in, which I'm always grateful
0:35.2	for, that I'm about to get peppered with.
0:37.9	Aaron, it's good to actually see you in person.
0:40.2	Yeah, I know.
0:41.2	We're live in New York because it's not Saturday night, however.
0:45.6	Let's just get rolling.
0:46.6	There's so many questions.
0:47.6	Let's not waste time.
0:48.6	So you're going on book leave and many of your listeners were curious what the book is
0:53.7	about.
0:54.7	I don't think this will surprise anybody listening to the show.
0:56.9	So I'm co-writing a book with Derek Thompson of The Atlantic, who, if you don't read him,
1:00.6	he's great.
1:01.6	And it's a book about what I have to call supply side, progressivism or a liberalism that builds
1:06.8	what Derek calls abundance or the abundance agenda.
1:10.3	But at its core, where do we have problems?
1:13.8	Where the fundamental problem is scarcity.
1:15.6	We don't have enough of something we need.
1:18.1	And when that problem is located, how do we fix it?
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