Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamer Keith. I cover the White House.

I'm Frank O'Rideon, as I also cover the White House. I'm Scott Detero. I cover the Presidential campaign.

And I'm Mara Lias and National Political Correspondent.

And the time now is 2.19 pm on Tuesday, November 5th. Just kidding, it's Thursday,

but some things have not changed. After we taped yesterday, the Associated Press called

the State of Michigan for Joe Biden. That means he needs just one more state in his column to win

the presidency. Though things in most of the remaining states are quite close at this time as votes

are still being tabulated. That includes Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, and Nevada.

Scott, you are with the Biden campaign in Wilmington, Delaware. How are they feeling right now?

What are they saying? They're feeling pretty confident. They've felt confident

since late Tuesday night that as votes were counted, Biden would emerge as a decisive victor.

And that hasn't changed. Osman and I were both on a call with them this morning.

And at one point, Osman asked the campaign to rank the states in the order of confidence.

And they declined to do that. Another reporter framed it as campaign manager,

General Malley Dillon, sounding like a parent, asked who their favorite child is.

Like, everybody's great. But Osman and I definitely inferred how they felt in order of confidence.

So I'm going to quickly walk through the remaining states, how the Biden campaign sees it,

and how we see it as well based on our reporting. If that works with you.

Yeah, that sounds great. So let's start with Pennsylvania. There's about 500,000 votes left to count

at this point while we're taping. Trump is up by a little bit more than 100,000. And Biden has

been winning the mail-in ballots, which first of all are from big counties, which lean predominantly

dumb. And second of all, have been breaking for him at a 75 to 80% clip because we know that there

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