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Well, welcome back to another edition of Dr. James Dobson's family talk, the voice you can still trust for the family you love.

I'm Roger Marsh sitting in the co-host seat today and a continuing conversation on today's broadcast with Pastor Charles Stone.

Pastor Stone is the author of a brand new book that we've been having a great conversation about and we're going to keep getting into about dealing with stress and anxiety. The book is called Stress Less, Nine Habits from the Bible

and Brain Science to Build Resiliency and Reduce Anxiety. Pastor Charles Stone, more than

40 years experience in the ministry, whether it be a pastor, associate pastor, church planner,

has served in the United States and in Canada. He and his wife, Cheryl, have 45 years of marriage. And I'm sure would Cheryl describe those as 30 of the happiest years of her life at least? I mean, hopefully every couple of years have been good ones. Most of them. Okay, good, a significant amount. Now, I love the fact with this new book, Pastor Stone, that you are approaching it not only from pastoral ministry,

as we discussed on the last program, but also from the scientific standpoint. And you have that rare

trifect of a master's in divinity, a doctors and ministry, and a PhD. So, I mean, you really are

kind of a book nerd. I have a daughter with a PhD and she calls herself a research geek.

I love it. Love it. Yeah, constantly doing that. Your study was way more interesting than hers and I

won't get into that on air because it involves the digestive system. But nonetheless, you know,

it's wonderful to have this type of conversation because as you and I were talking about previously,

the idea that a lot of

people will say okay well I'm a Christian so I shouldn't be stressing so much I shouldn't be depressed

my problems should all be solved and a lot of times it causes people to take a step back even from

their faith and yet you do talk about the fact that there is a biblical response to stress even though

the word stress really isn't

in scripture per se. That's probably why a lot of us have a hard time dealing with that. Talk about

why this is so important for us to kind of get our arms around from a spiritual standpoint.

Well, sure. Well, stress is real. I think stress has been accentuated post-COVID across the board.

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