Welcome to the Tipping Point Show. I'm Jimmy Evans. We have a great show for today. Dr. Mark Hitchcock and I

are talking about the rapture of the church and talking about the arguments against a pre-trib rapture

and what the Bible actually says. And we're going to be proving to you in this show today that the rapture

is pre-tribulations. It's going to be very encouraging. But maybe you have people that, you know, argue with you about that. Maybe some of you have questions. We're going to be answering those on the show today. Let me just mention real quickly before I get into the interview with Dr. Mark Hitchcock that we have our conference coming up, September 20th and 21st, Dr. David, Jeremiah, Max Lekato. We have Ed Young, Pastor Ed Young, who is the pastor of fellowship church. That's where we're having the conference this year. We have, you know, Dr. Mark Hitchcock, myself, Billy Crone, Rabbi Jonathan Conn. We have a fantastic conference. It's going to be Friday night and all day Saturday. So we're adding the Friday night. The price remains the same. Bring somebody with you. Bring a group from your church. Bring neighbors or friends. It's going to be great. But I'm mentioning this today because we have a lot of people signing up. We have reserved seating so you can go there and reserve your seat. But the seats are filling up. So go on. Get your tickets right now. It's going to be a fantastic time. Also want to mention, as I introduced Dr. Mark Kitchcock, we have our new book out. And this is called AI and the Antichrist. It's in our series called What's Next. Our next book, by the way, is on the rapture of the church. And so this is AI and the Antichrist. This is a really great book

to help you understand. One of the main figures in the Bible, the Antichrist, 33 titles in the Old

Testament, 13 in the New Testament, talked about. I believe he's just about to show up. So AI and the

Antichrist by myself. Dr. Mark Hitchcock is joining me now, and I just want to say he's the

senior pastor of Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma, and he is a scholar written over 30 books on the End Times, and he's a regular contributor here at EndTimes.com.

Mark, it's great to have you with me today.

Well, it's always great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Well, this is a show that I've wanted to do for a long

time because you and I both, we have people, pastor friends or theologians or whoever, who

don't believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. And some very strongly believe in a post-tribulation

rapture, a rapture at the end, or maybe a pre-rath rapture or whatever you want to call it. So you and I both very strongly believe in a pre-trib rapture. A rapture, there's going to be the rapture of the church. We're going to talk about that first. But I want to have you as a theologian, because you are a theologian. You've written over 30 books on the end times.

And of course you're a PhD from Dallas Theological Seminary.

Yep. And so you've got the, and you studied under John Walbert,

under Dwight Pentecost, you're some of the most famous in time theologians.

And so I just want to have this show as a reference

point to people. People right now, they may have questions about preacher of rapture, but also

they may have a lot of friends or family, you know, bothering them and telling them things that

are troubling and things like that. So the rapture, the concept of the rapture, where do we find that

in the scripture? Well, we find it in several places in the New Testament. And really, you know,

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