So this organic industry really sprung out of what we all like to do and as a result it's really an economic powerhouse.

People might just be thinking they're just affecting a couple fishermen,

that's not the case you're affecting an entire segment of our economy.

If we take these things into account that these are powerful economic drivers and it's people we can have clean air, clean water, public lands, public access and we can we never have to defend that

Right, you never have to say yes, but. Hello, this is Hale Herring.

I'm here with Back Country Hunters and Anglers and Anglers

Podcast and Blast.

It's early summer here in Whitefish, Montana,

and I am here with Rachel Van. early summer here in White Fish, Montana.

And I am here with Rachel Van Duvort,

who I've known for a long time,

who's a white fish native,

and she's also, I'm gonna read her card the from the office of the state of Montana

the governor's office she's the new director of the office of outdoor recreation and that is where the 11th where there's 11 states that

have such an office yeah there's 11 states and I Montana was the fourth state to

create this office.

And I started last September, so I've been around for about eight, ten months now.

And yeah, just in that short time, as Montana being the fourth are now 11 states by the end of the year I bet there's

darn near 15 yeah so yeah it's a big thing but yeah thanks for how thanks for

coming to Whitefish yeah man I'm glad to get here I have a lot of history here as we were discussing. I know you were born here. Yes. I've been told I'm so I'm I'm embedded like a tick is what I've been told. I'm like, yeah, this is a good place to be a tick, man.

And it is what I thought you had wandered far and

roamed around and then I realized that you'd managed to stay right here

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