Hello everybody and welcome back this is Hal Herring with backcountry hunters and anglers

podcast and blast as I do sometime when I have a guest that requires more introduction I don't want to waste

his or her time I wanted to record a short introduction to this

podcast. It's with Dr Stephen J Pine who he was a professor at the Arizona State

University for since 1985 and he's written 35 books.

Most of them about his primary subject is fire, history of fire and exploration of fire across our planet.

He spent 15 years on the fire crew at the Grand Canyon National Park, starting as a very young man, which began his study.

He's become the most profound and visionary thinker

on the nature of this force which shapes every aspect of our lives

and our planet. He will elaborate on that on some, but as he says of himself, I am a hedgehog, meaning he's very focused on his certain topics, but I'm a hedgehog that knew two big things and in

addition to the many books on fire and his Ted talks on fire it's called fire

a biography Dr Pine has also written histories of exploration.

One, it's called the exploration space in the third great age of discovery. Coming out in

2021 you'll have another book called Great Age of Discovery. Coming out in 2021,

he'll have another book called Great Ages of Discovery,

how Western Civilization learned about a wider world.

He's written a book on how the Grand Canyon

became grand, the study of geology, and he's written a book on Antarctica called

The Ice. We like to talk about this age as being the age of the Anthropocene, where every aspect of the planet, landscape, water, ocean, mountain are shaped by the actions of humankind.

And I don't think Dr. Prime would object to that word the an proposine, but he would also,

he would add quickly that this is also the pyrosine, the age of fire. It's not the first one as you'll learn in this in this

discussion we have, but it is the one that's most important to us because we

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