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So I'm curious.

So when you were in the Church of Latter-day Saints,

did you notice any kind of Masonic rituals?

Yes.

And the reason why I'm asking is because I had somebody on the show who actually left the Church of LDS as well and basically showcased how it's a form of Freemasonry light.

I call it almost diet free masonry.

So I'm just curious if you experienced any of that in your time in the Church of LDS.

So there's a lot. There's a lot, a lot. So Joseph Smith was a

freemason, but he skipped the line. He didn't have to go through everything. So he had that.

Now, I have to say that he got me here. So if I hadn't been born in that, I wouldn't be able to talk about

freemasoning. And so the temple, Salt Lake City Temple has Freemason symbols all over it.

So if you look at it. I've seen them. Yeah. So, but it's just, I can't tell you all of it because I don't remember the temple ceremony

and what it is, but it's definitely a secret society in there.

Oh, 100%.

So I actually, when I had the guest on, this was back in season two, she was showcasing on how, I think it was Joseph Smith and a lot of the people had up there, they were using sigil magic. They had a, they had these sigils that she was showing. For if you know what a sigil is, it's basically a spiritual symbol that can be used to, you know,

cultivate or harness or call upon some kind of spiritual energy.

So they actually had sigils that they were using, which I found absolutely interesting.

I've never seen that.

But if you look online, you'll see that Joseph Smith had, there's one there it's like a almost looking at

Egyptian that he used so I could pull that up and send it to you but yeah but you don't know this

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