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Hidden True Crime

Beyond the Veil: The Fearlessness and Filicide of Lori Vallow Daybell

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Society & Culture, Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2020

⏱️ 72 minutes

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We get closer to answering the big questions at dinner tonight- Why do human beings murder? Why did Lori really kill her children? We examine the research on filicide and psychopathy to provide some insight into these thorny questions in addition to bringing in a famous child murderer from the past, Diane Downs, to assist in our analysis. Before finishing dinner, we explore the roles of courage and fearlessness in homicide. What does fearlessness have to do with murder? And what does real courage look like and how can we attain it? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hidden, a true crime podcast, a forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden motives behind

0:09.0

unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way.

0:14.0

According to Elizabeth Diane Downs,

0:20.0

she and her three children were shot by a strange man.

0:23.0

We were just out, I guess sightseeing, I guess you'd say.

0:26.0

And the kids got tired, they fell asleep in the car,

0:29.0

so I decided just had on home.

0:31.0

But I saw a road I hadn't been on before. We like to take back roads and just

0:35.1

went down that road and there was a guy standing in the road flagging me down

0:39.2

so I stopped. When this man shot my daughter my first reaction was to snap back to my childhood to the pain that had happened to me back then my marriage my entrapment by society this man was bigger than than me. He was stronger than me. He had more power because he had a gun.

0:56.0

And I stood there and I looked at Christie reaching and the blood that just kept gushing out of her mouth and what do you do?

1:08.0

I'm Lauren Matthias and I'm Dr. John Matthias and who you just heard is Diane Downs, a woman spending her life

1:16.2

in prison after being convicted of shooting her three children. We're

1:20.6

continuing our insights into Lori Valo Daybell in this episode. You are in the right place.

1:25.0

But the case of Diane Downs nearly 40 years ago is important for tonight's analysis.

1:31.0

But first, before we'd continue,

1:34.2

we need our listeners support.

1:36.6

John and I love doing this podcast.

1:38.6

With each episode, we find ourselves more invested

1:41.1

and spending more time on each episode. We hope to continue

1:44.9

creating and we hope you can help us grow along the way. While this podcast has

1:49.6

its humble origins at our family dining room table.

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