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Beyond the Talk: Lei Cheng in conversation with TED Talks Daily

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4.111.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

“ I marvel at every little freedom that we have. Because for three years and two months, it was all brutally taken away from me,” says Australian journalist Lei Cheng. In 2020, Lei was wrongfully detained in China after being falsely accused of leaking state secrets. Several years after her release, she took the stage at TED2025 to share her perspective on the meaning and value of freedom. Following her talk, Lei sat down for a special conversation with TED Talks Daily host Elise Hu to discuss her experience and how it’s shaped her vision for a freer future.

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0:00.0

Hey, TED Talks Daily listeners. It's Elise. Thank you for making this show part of your daily routine.

0:05.9

We really appreciate it, and we want to make it even better for you. So we put together a quick

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but it really helps us shape the show and get to know you, our listeners. So much better.

0:22.7

Head to the episode description to find the link to the listener survey. We would really appreciate

0:27.7

you doing it. Thank you so much for taking the time to help the show.

0:34.3

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0:55.2

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0:59.4

Take a deep breath.

1:02.6

Feel that?

1:04.3

Refreshing, isn't it?

1:06.5

But we get it.

1:08.8

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1:10.3

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1:34.9

Warning, this book contains strong opinions, questionable decisions and stories I probably

1:40.5

shouldn't be telling. But here we are. Just you, me and my big mouth.

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