Welcome back to Beyond the polls. This week, I'm joined by Sabato Crystal Balls, Kyle Conduct,

who will explain who could win the new redistricting wars. Let's dive in.

Well, it's August of the off year, so normally official Washington and political worlds would be on siesta,

but not now.

And part of the reason for that is the unprecedented swath and argument about mid-decadeal

redistricting.

And here to break this down and talk about the other new political developments in American

always interesting politics is Kyle Condek, managing editor of Sabatoz Crystal Bowl

and the co-author of a new book on the 2024 election, Campaign of Chaos. Kyle, welcome back

to be on the polls. Always good to see you, Henry. Well, let's dive right in. Why is it that it's

2025 and you and I are talking about redistricting? Didn't we get over

all of this at the beginning of this decade after the census was released? Isn't this a one in

every 10-year thing? Well, it's not. And I think it's important to note there are no federal

prohibitions on mid-decade redistricting.

I don't believe that there ever have been, although I think part of what happened in the Texas re-registricting in 2003 is that

that was kind of, I think that was sort of seen as novel at the time a state, you know, going back and redrawing,

and there were a lot of details with that that are similar and different to now.

But, you know, there were some Supreme Court cases associated with that, and basically it was

said that there aren't any federal prohibitions on the timing of redistricting.

If you go back to a longer sweep of American history,

particularly the late 1800s, you could find examples of some states draw new maps basically

every two years. I mean, Ohio had several different maps in the 1880s. Then you had a time

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