Hello and welcome to the Red Box Politics Podcast on The Times, I'm Matt Jolly.

This is the second in our series of special Beyond the Fringe episode,

speaking to some of the political acts taking shows to this year's Edna Fringe.

I'm delighted to be joined by Matt Ford, Star Rums Spine on Dave and hosted the political

party podcast.

He takes his show Brexit, pursued by a bear to the Pleasants, and Grace Campbell,

his dad is Alistair Campbell, at the Gilded Balloon with her show

why I'm never going into politics welcome to you both

so at the first pitch is if you're outflaring maybe you're too posh

and successful now to do your own flaring but if you were outflaring, maybe you're too posh and successful now to do your own flaring, but if you were out

flaring, what's your pitch to someone in the streets, so why should come and see your show?

Let's start with you, Grace.

And I pointed out who your dad was because it's interesting that having had a dad who's been in politics

and still is you are so determined not to go into politics.

Well that's my pitch probably.

My dad's Alistair Campbell.

I grew up in politics and I'm an activist and I've worked a lot in the kind of

feminist campaigning area since I was like 17 years old but I have decided to kind of

write a show which is all about a rejection of Westminster, basically, by someone who was born the month her father started working for Tony Blair, whose third birthday was ruined by the general election of 1997.

My life has been dominated by politics.

So it's not like, oh, hi my dad's Alistair Campbell, come and see my show. It's not like oh hi my dad Alisto Campbell come and see my show it's like I'm writing about my life which has been quite bizarre at times and it's quite feminist and I also talk lots about sex and masturbation.

So it's got a good mix.

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