Beyond Naturalism: What’s Real? Dr. Alex Carter vs Dr. Zachary Ardern - Hosted by Sam McKee
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🗓️ 6 November 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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What is really real? In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr Zachary Ardern (evolutionary biologist, Wellcome Sanger Institute), Dr Alex Carter (philosopher, University of Cambridge), and Dr Sam McKee (science historian, Manchester Metropolitan University) sit down to revisit one of the oldest debates in human thought — the relationship between science, religion, and ultimate reality.
This one will get you thinking and may even surprise you in their discussion about meaning, knowledge, and the limits of what science can tell us.
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| 0:45.1 | Hello and welcome to this very informal episode of Unbelievable. |
| 0:48.3 | I'm amongst friends, very distinguished colleagues, |
| 0:51.7 | and we're going to have a chat about science, religion and reality. |
| 0:55.9 | Before we get into the content, why don't you just introduce yourself and say who you are? Yeah, so I'm Zachary Adrian. I'm a postdoctoral researcher at an |
| 1:02.4 | institute in Cambridge. My research is on evolutionary genomics. So I'm interested in how evolution |
| 1:07.2 | works, mostly in bacteria, but also working in viruses. So I work on the mechanisms of evolution and also thinking about some bigger picture |
| 1:14.1 | questions in evolutionary theory. |
| 1:16.7 | My background, though, at undergrad, was both philosophy and biology. |
| 1:20.0 | I'm also interested in some of the bigger questions of life and faith in science and the nature |
| 1:26.5 | of reality. So I look forward to the conversation today. |
| 1:30.6 | Alex. And I'm Dr. Alex Carter. I am a teaching professor at the University of Cambridge. I have |
| 1:36.7 | historically focused on the philosophy of religion, but now tend to focus much more on questions |
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