Beyond Altar Calls: Rediscovering Evangelism Through Patience and Community

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Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford challenge traditional views of evangelism by exploring how the early church grew through embodied faith and patient community life. Drawing from Alan Kreider's The Patient Ferment of the Early Church, they discuss moving beyond altar calls rooted in guilt and manipulation, and toward a transformative understanding of evangelism rooted in the way of Jesus.

Key Takeaways:

• Rethinking Evangelism – Understanding that the early church grew not by compelling arguments or altar calls, but by living out the teachings of Jesus in community.

• Patience Over Outcomes – Exploring the virtue of patience as central to early Christians, and how trusting God's timing contrasts with modern urgency to produce immediate results.

• Dangers of Control – Discussing how attempts to control spiritual outcomes can lead to manipulation and divert us from genuine discipleship.

• The Parable of the Wheat and the Weeds – Unpacking Jesus's teaching on allowing wheat and weeds to grow together, and how it informs our approach to dealing with evil in the world.

• Salvation as Community Participation – Redefining salvation from an individual transaction to participation in the communal life of following Jesus.

Resources Mentioned:

• The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider

• The Rise of Christianity by Rodney Stark

• Parable of the Wheat and the Weeds – Matthew 13

• Power and Weakness by Tim Gombis

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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

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Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

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0:21.5	Welcome. Tim, what episode is this a part of your day today. Welcome.
0:31.1	Tim, what episode is this? Do you have any idea? We're 441 maybe. Oh, man. Okay. We're almost halfway to 900. Yeah, yeah. That was always the goal. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, we've, yeah, just so i can't believe i can't believe we've
0:42.0	been around this much and that people have still listened and that there are those select few
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0:50.8	i just found your podcast and i binged the entire thing.
0:55.3	Seriously. It's absolutely nuts. But we're so honored and we're so grateful. And if you're
1:00.4	relatively new Vox, we were initially called the Vox podcast. The Vox is Latin for voice.
1:06.2	And we love the idea of just talking about how beautiful Jesus is and that Jesus is God's voice to the world.
1:13.7	You know, when God talks, it sounds like Jesus.
1:16.7	And because there's a Vox Media Corp, we change that to Voxology, the study of voices.
1:23.5	And just left the two voices on here previously that had been here, damely, Mike and Timms.
1:29.1	So anyway, that's a bit about, and we started this thing in 2015, which is cray cray, as my kids would say.
1:40.1	And man, suffice to say the world's changed a little bit in that time. And podcasting has changed a little bit. I remember like we were in the top 50 of all podcasts or of all religion and spirituality podcasts. And now it's like there are 10 hundred thousand. If that's a number, 10 hundred thousand, that would be what?
2:01.8	A lot.
2:02.1	A hundred thousand?
2:03.1	A million?
2:04.2	Not sure.
2:04.7	But anyway, there's a lot.
2:06.5	And so whenever we make a joke about two white men, you know, doing a podcast, we were
2:11.9	in before it became really, really popular.
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