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Hidden Brain

Between Two Worlds

Hidden Brain

Hidden Brain Media

Arts, Science, Performing Arts, Social Sciences

4.640.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Determination, hard work and sacrifice are core ingredients in the story of the American dream. But philosopher Jennifer Morton argues there is another, more painful requirement to getting ahead: a willingness to leave family and friends behind. This week, we explore the ethical costs of upward mobility.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Brain, I'm Shankar Vedantam.

0:02.8

Doing better than your parents, having a better education,

0:05.9

living a better life, this is universally seen as a good thing.

0:11.1

But a century ago, a poet named Christo Smirnanski

0:14.7

wrote a parable that raises important questions about the nature of upward mobility.

0:20.1

The tale of the stairs is about an impoverished young man

0:23.7

standing at the foot of a marble staircase.

0:26.3

He's gazing up at the wealthy people above him.

0:28.9

He's got a choir enjoying themselves and having drinks while the people down below

0:32.8

don't have enough food to eat and are really suffering.

0:37.6

This is philosopher Jennifer Morton.

0:40.3

Blocking the young man's ascent to the party above

0:43.8

is the devil himself.

0:46.0

The devil asks him if he wants to get closer to the top.

0:50.4

There's just one catch. The devil wants a bribe.

0:54.6

The young man protests.

0:56.4

I am poor, a youth and rags, he says.

0:59.3

But I'm willing to give up my life.

1:01.9

The devil says he doesn't want the young man's life.

1:04.8

He wants to replace his hearing with a new pair of ears.

1:10.9

The young man agrees.

1:13.0

And so, the devil lets him walk up a few steps.

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