Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Francisco. Welcome to the show. For more than two years Governor Greg Abbott has taken an increasingly hostile approach to defending the Texas-Mexico border.

But this summer, Abbott somehow has gone a step further.

According to interviews with state officials and documents reviewed by the New York Times,

Texas law enforcement has lined the river banks with razor wire, denied water to migrants, and in some cases intentionally

refused to alert federal border agents who might assist arriving groups seeking asylum.

Now, this treatment, while unquestionably abhorrent,

is not exactly new.

Growing up as a second generation Mexican-American in Chicago, I'd often hear stories about what my

grandfather faced as he left Mexico for America.

In fact, a couple years back, I made a short film about him called Sebastian.

And in that it told the story in part of his journey through America in the 1950s

and even then the brutality, the discrimination, the fear some had that he was here to take their job,

it was all part and parcel of the immigrant experience.

And so today, I wanted to have a different kind of conversation

about what's happening down in Texas.

And to do that, I thought we should call up one of our most beloved recurring guests on Talk Easy.

Of course I am talking about my father.

Let's give him a call. I'm back by popular demand my father dad welcome back.

Hey let's see who's reading me is it Comau Bell?

I think Comau may have you beat.

Dr. Jaa came on a lot.

Ah, yes.

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