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He's here. Thank you. Welcome. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

I'm so glad you said yes. I'm so glad you said yes. There's been a lot of talk about you being here today. Everybody's asking me why did I want to have you here?

I wanted to know what all the fuss was about. What's everybody talking about? And I had so many friends who had gone to your rallies.

People I know were sending me videos from the rally saying this guy is the real deal. This guy is a real deal.

So thank you for the chance to sit down and see that if you are the real deal. Are you the real deal?

I feel some pressure now. You put it that way. But how could I say no to you? And it's just a huge honor for me to be here. So thank you.

Thank you for saying yes.

You've emerged as this new voice in politics who rose above the negativity and also redefined what a typical political campaign could be. And I'm interested in why and how that happened. So that's why I wanted to also have you here. But I have to say I didn't know who you were.

I was talking about mid-June and you were talking about the immigration issue. It was one of the few times that since I've left the Oprah show that I really missed having a daily platform because I just wanted to be able to speak to the people about what was happening on the borders.

I saw an interview with you down on the borders as I was feeling so helpless. So I call my friend Gail and I call the women, the doctor Colleen Kraft I think her name was who was ahead of the pediatrics for children who was talking about what we were doing to children separating them from their parents.

I said, Gail, you got to go down there. You got to find this guy. He's a tall guy. He looks sort of like Robert Kennedy or one of those Kennedy guys. You got to find that guy.

But I was doing that because I felt so helpless and I saw you in the midst of it. How did that moment first of all inform your candidacy? And did you feel helpless too?

You know, I did initially. Here you had this great country taking little kids and babies from their parents. After they'd survived a 2,000 mile journey, much of it on foot. If they were lucky on top of not inside of a train, called the Beast or La Bessia.

Coming to this country of asylum seekers and immigrants and refugees from the world over going generations back and at their most vulnerable, desperate moment, that baby for whom they've risked everything is literally taken torn from their arms.

What do we do in the face of that?

Yeah.

We found out about it and along with Veronica Escobar, who's now the representative for Al Paso and Susie Bird and other great leaders in our community, issued a call to action to the world.

We'll come down to Al Paso to Tornio where we are imprisoning these kids, something that is tantamount to torture what we're doing to them.

And bear witness to this. And let's testify to everyone that this is happening in your name in this country. Do not blame this on Donald Trump. Do not blame this on a political party. Do not blame this on someone else.

If we're a democracy, then the people are the government. The government is the people. It's on every single one of us. I have to say that gave me goosebumps when I first heard you say it because it's like, do not blame this on anybody because this is happening in your name because this is America.

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