Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives, and before we jump into this episode, I just

want to give you a roadmap of where this is going to go.

So the first episode is a brand new rewatch that I did with Ryan Bailey for Bethany Ever

after. So that's going to be the first half of the episode. The second half of the episode,

I am attaching an interview that I had done with Dr. Amador, Bethany's therapist from both

Bethany Ever after and Housewives. And the reason why I felt it was really relevant to

re-listen to today is because, well, a few reasons. He talks all about his personal experience

of Jason Hoppy behind the scenes of production around the episode where she and Jason are lost

at sea on his sailboat. But perhaps I was most motivated to include this interview with

Dr. Amador because he does shed light on what we are seeing today with her erratic behavior

on TikTok, Instagram, this addiction to being seen. So check the timestamp in the show notes.

It's about 35-ish minutes into the episode. So that's it. All right. We're going to roll

right into Ryan and then that will be followed by Dr. Amador. Ryan Bailey, how the hell are you?

Hello. Hello. This is funny because initially I thought we were going to record this

concept for your podcast and we just decided very quickly. I guess it is appropriate that we're

going to put it on mine because this is a true deep dive into Bethany Ever after.

Well, also, that's what a pro just is is that she was able to flip on a dime and she's like,

no, I got it. No, I can do it. Yeah. We'll do it for mine and then we'll do this for you.

And that's what you're dealing with here, folks. And that's why you come back week after week.

And by the way, I do also have to point out with Jess, what an insane, I mean, you're now blowing

it right now with me, but you've had an insane run on Guest lately that really, I don't even know

how you're doing this. Like your guests that you are getting are so good every week now,

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