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The Good Fight

Bethany Allen on How China Abuses its Economic Might

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Bethany Allen discuss the historical trajectory of the modern Chinese economy. Bethany Allen is the China reporter at Axios and the author of Beijing Rules: How China Weaponized Its Economy to Confront the World. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Bethany Allen discuss how China’s unique “party-state capitalism” can act both as a boon to and a drag on its economic growth; how China uses its economic power to enforce conformity and limit free speech around the globe; and what the future might hold for Taiwan. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

History.

0:01.0

What does this make you think of?

0:04.0

Swords, armor, castles, cannons, trenches, tanks, tanks?

0:10.0

Or perhaps it makes you think of bravery, courage, resistance.

0:15.6

We shall fight on the beaches and in the streets.

0:19.6

Uncover a thousand years of incredible defensive stories a brand new series defending Europe

0:25.8

Mondays at nine on National Geographic. To trace the history of this briefly, I'll go back to 1997 to an example that I think many of us are familiar with now,

0:38.0

which is there were two films from Hollywood that were made about Tibet that cast Tibet in a very

0:45.4

sympathetic light casting Tibet as a victim of Chinese military aggression.

0:50.0

Seven years in Tibet with Brad Pitt and Kundun by Martin's

0:53.2

Crusadesi film for Disney. Both of those production studios, so Columbia TriStar

0:57.7

in Disney, were then immediately shut out of the Chinese market.

1:00.8

And that was like an earthquake across Hollywood. And in the past

1:05.0

26 years there has been not one, not one major Hollywood film that has crossed DCP red lines at all.

1:17.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Here is another installment of the contents of my new book, of the identity trap, a story of ideas and power in our time as ever pleased to consider reading a long week by week as I summarize these chapters in my own words.

1:42.0

I have been trying to explain how the identity synthesis could escape

1:46.7

campus, how it could go mainstream over the course of the last decade. This is

1:51.5

something to do with the way in which a popularized form of the identity

1:55.4

synthesis started to form on social media and enter newspapers like the New York Times

2:01.5

in the Washington Post. It has something to do with a short march through the institutions in which students steeped in these ideas on campus, started to take jobs in corporations and nonprofit institutions and pressure their employers

2:16.7

to pay heed to their ideas.

2:19.7

But the final turning point came ironically in the form of Donald Trump's victory in 2016.

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