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This is CBS.

I in the world.

I'm John Bats for visiting with my colleague, Terry Anderson of the Hoover

Institution whose book, Adapt and Be Adapt, can't be mentioned enough because

apparently keeps coming back.

Just when I think that, oh, surely they know the book that Terry's published with

economists and observers about the limits of the renewables, about the necessity of fossil

fuels indefinitely.

Adapt and be a depth market response is to climate change, but no, we come back again

to a heresy by a HSBC banker saying that the end of the world is not

an eye that we're going to go forward with a mix of energy sources and to be practical

minded, fossil fuels are one of them.

Terry, I want to come to the point of making batteries because that often is the case

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