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It doesn't care where you come from,

what you look like, your credit score,

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Don't invest in as it prepared to lose all the money you invest.

This is a high-risk investment,

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This is CBSI in the world.

I'm John Bats.

We're visiting with my colleague,

Terry Anderson, of the Hoover Institution,

whose book, Adapt and Be Adapt,

can't be mentioned enough,

because apparently it keeps coming back.

Just when I think that,

oh, surely they know the book that Terry's published

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