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Fresh Air

Best Of: 'Till' Director Chinonye Chukwu / 'Shutter' Author Ramona Emerson

Fresh Air

NPR

Tv & Film, Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.434.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Till tells the story of Mamie Till-Mobley, whose decision to hold an open-casket funeral for her murdered son Emmett served as a catalyst for the civil rights movement. We talk with director Chinonye Chukwu.

Ken Tucker reviews Taylor Swift's Midnights.

Ramona Emerson's novel, Shutter, is about a police department photographer, who, like Emerson, grew up in the Navajo Nation. The protagonist is haunted by the ghosts of victims from scenes she's photographed. We talk with Emerson about her own experience in forensic photography and how it informed the book.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From WHY and Philadelphia, this is Fresh Air Weekend. I'm Sam Brigger in FrateriCrosse.

0:07.0

Today, director Chenoya Choukou, her new film Till tells the story of Emmett Till, the 14-year-old

0:13.2

boy from Chicago, who was lynched in Mississippi in 1955 while visiting relatives. Choukou makes Emmett's

0:19.8

mother, Mamie Till Mowbly, the center of the story, how she insisted that his mutilated body

0:24.9

be photographed and displayed in an open casket for his funeral. The photograph was published

0:30.3

in Jet Magazine, and it waked the world to a horrific reality the black community knew

0:35.3

all too well. Also, we'll hear from Ramona Emerson. Her first novel, Shutter, is about a police

0:41.6

department photographer, who, like Emerson, grew up in the Navajo Nation. In the story

0:47.2

of the photographers haunted by the ghost of a victim from the crime scene, she's photographed.

0:52.9

And Ken Tucker will review Taylor Swift's new album.

0:59.5

This is Fresh Air Weekend. I'm Sam Brigger in FrateriCrosse. For generations, the story

1:04.3

of Emmett Till's lynching was told as a cautionary tale that starts with an image of Till's

1:08.6

mutilated body in an open casket. The 14-year-old, who was from Chicago, was murdered in 1955

1:15.6

for allegedly flirting with a white woman while visiting family in Mississippi. Sixty-seven

1:20.7

years later, a new movie tells the story of Emmett Till through the lens of his mother,

1:24.4

Mamie Till Mowbly. Till was co-written and directed by Chinoia Choukou, who makes Emmett

1:30.0

Till's mother the protagonist, illustrating how her decisions became a catalyst for the

1:34.2

Civil Rights movement. Choukou sat down to talk about the movie with guest interviewer,

1:39.2

and host of the podcast Truth Be Told, Tanya Mosley.

1:43.6

Like most black people in America, Chinoia Choukou grew up learning about the story of Emmett

1:49.0

Till. But what she and fewer people knew was the journey of Emmett's mother, Mamie Till

1:54.5

Mowbly, before and after her son was lynched. In the summer of 1955, 14-year-old Emmett Till

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