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locked on Pacers, one of the many outlets in which, in addition to this program, you hear Tony East.

Tony, who saw me the other day, by the way, Eddie, I don't know if I told you this.

During the Pacer game, and I can't remember if it was last game or two games ago, but I went to the restroom during

halftime and I inadvertently went down a wrong hallway and was immediately scolded.

By Tony East?

Tony East is the one that scolded you?

No, the security scolded me.

Rightly so.

I was in the wrong.

I was just kind of zoned out and I went past an area where I'm not

supposed to go and they scolded me and and as I then walked past I gave Tony East, I think kind of a

fist bump because my wrist was still swollen and sore from the way they slapped it. But I saw Tony

right after that. Right after I'd been scolded, I saw he was the first person I saw after my scolding. And I just gave him, hey, what's up? Tony East joins us now. Tony, did I appear frazzled and razzled when you saw me? No, but now I'm thinking back on that interaction quite differently. The thing is, like right where the, that's like right where the road locker room is, right? to like any wrong turn, they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes, the road locker room. So that, that, there's a, there's a restroom down there near the road locker room. But if you get into the left lane, then you're in the road locker room lane as opposed to the right lane, which is the restroom lane. And I inadvertently got in the left lane, and that's a no-no. Just so you know. You know, I've walked on that hallway a million times. My biggest fear is always that I'm just going to get trampled by a player running out for the second half, which does not know or care that I'm there. Well, that's why the security's there to make sure that you're in the right lane, which I learned very quickly. All right, let's get to this, Tony. Last night, you know, that was one that I don't think anybody, myself included. I was down in Bloomington watching Indiana, so I did not see each and every aspect of that game last night, had to look at it after the fact. and I know that there were runs that the Nets went on that Indiana just was not able to come back from. But what was your first off, I guess, knee-jerk takeaway from last night's performance or lack thereof? Yeah, they did like every little thing bad, right? If you just told me, like, first of all, the nets are terrible.

So that's just like, even if you're not a, if you're a really banged up Pacers team, like, that's a bad loss to have at home, like Ben Shepard was really good. And Jay Huff was pretty good. And Jeremiah Robinson Earl had his amount of team for four days, had six days or whatever, had 15 rebounds. Like, you told anybody that before the game. Like, oh, yeah, they'll win, right? Like, obviously, they got three good

role players on their team and, like, said for six days or whatever had 15 rebounds like you told anybody that before the game

I'm like oh yeah they'll win right like obviously they got three good role players on their team

and like Pascal pulled up the statute but he had seven turnovers they had 23 fouls as a team they

continue to just not be able to make any shots at all regardless of who's taking them and that's

players that some have some haven't made shots before at car Carlisle's then before the game. He's expecting a shot-making game to come at some point. Well, it wasn't last night, and it's not like the Nets were on fire or anything. Michael Porter Jr. hit some shots here, some other guys make some there. But, you know, every, like, a lot of those, the box score stats were really similar, our favor the Pacers, except for free throws and fouls. And I think that's something Carlisle touched on postgame that they just have a lot of fouls that are not smart or are not ones that they need to be doing. And it's really been haunting them all season. Their foul rate is like the highest in the league or among the highest in the league. and in a game like last night where they do well in a lot of categories, not well, but better than the nets, the free throw to scrub and too is the thing that cost them. And it wasn't even like a game where people thought, man, the refs were so bad. Like the Pacers just foul the ton and were terrible. Okay, Tony, we might have discussed this, but I just was talking about it before we brought you on.

The one, to me, there are, there are reasons that you can look because we know that the pacer's are struggling due to attrition.

And because we know how good they can be when this group is together.

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