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Best of Proof: Nixtamalization and Indigenous Science

Proof

America's Test Kitchen

Society & Culture, Food, Arts

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

What is nixtamalization, and why is it so important when preparing corn-based dishes like tortillas and pupusas? Navajo reporter Andi Murphy walks us through her journey of nixtamalizing blue corn, and embarks on an Indigenous information exchange with chefs, scholars, and poets in the process. Want to make your own corn tortillas? Check out ATK’s recipe for Homemade Corn Tortillas. Get a 14-day free trial for an America’s Test Kitchen digital subscription at atkpodcast.com.   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, it's your friendly neighborhood proof host, Kevin Pang here.

0:03.4

While we put together season 15 of our show, we're digging into the archives to share some

0:08.4

of our favorite episodes with you.

0:10.6

This week, managing producer Yumi Araki is going to tell you about one of her favorite

0:15.3

episodes.

0:17.8

My colleagues on the Cook's Country team have what can only be described as a dream job.

0:23.3

Listen, I love my job producing proof, but they get to travel around, cooking and eating

0:28.6

with chefs, home cooks, and food lovers in every corner of the country.

0:33.6

And most recently, they were in Minneapolis, filming a segment at Alamni with award-winning

0:38.6

Sue Chef Sean Sherman.

0:41.2

Sean's food is incredible, and his vision for Alamni is about decolonizing food.

0:47.4

He focuses on seasonal, locally sourced ingredients that are native to the Americas.

0:53.2

He doesn't include on the menu things that are brought over by colonial forces, like

0:57.2

wheat, flour, dairy, or sugar cane.

1:01.3

Everything on his menu is grown or produced in the continent before Europeans arrived.

1:06.5

His focus on indigenous cooking methods and ingredients got me thinking about an episode

1:10.9

that reporter Andy Murphy produced for us in 2021.

1:15.4

Andy is Navajo, an in-her episode.

1:17.7

She talks about one particular cooking technique that indigenous populations were using for

1:22.2

millennia in order to treat corn and transform it into mosa.

1:27.7

Mosa is the foundational ingredient for things like tortillas, tamales, and pupusas.

1:32.9

So you can imagine how important this piece of indigenous science is.

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