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Hi, I'm Lindsay Graham, the host of Wundere's Podcast American History Tellers, which dives into the events and people who shaped our country.

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Binge all episodes of American history tellers ad free right now on Wundery Plus. Hey everybody we got a great one today you know for a change and you know it's one of our few great ones because it's the best of. Heather Cox Richardson on her bestseller Democracy

Awakening notes on the state of democracy. It's truly a great one one not like George Stephanopoulos's interview

with President Biden. Is it me or is there something off with Stephanopoulos?

No no no I meant President Biden.

Toward the end, Stephanopoulos asked Biden

how he'd feel if he lost to Trump

and Biden said something to the effect that he'd be okay with it if he'd known

he'd done his best. No, no, no. Look, there are reporters who have met with people who have been with Biden have said on the condition

of anonymity that these lapses were getting more frequent and more pronounced. Now Biden denied that with

Stephanopoulos but it's clear that well that he wasn't being completely

honest during the interview. For example, very early on,

Stephanopoulos asked Biden if he'd watched the debate and Biden said,

quote, I don't think I did no. I don't think I did. I think he'd be pretty sure if he'd

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