I've hosted the Kedru Daily Podcast for nearly 18 years, but no more.

But I wanted to leave loyal listeners with some favorite episodes that I hope ring true and

relevant to our current moment. This is one of them. Thank you for listening.

This is the Kedru Daily Podcast for Monday, December 11, 2023. I'm Caleb Brown. As many cities face

housing crunches, we should remember that housing policy reform is overwhelmingly

a task for state and local governments.

Leo B. Asucci is the Republican majority leader of the Arizona House of Representatives.

We talked about how the state has addressed housing policy and how to strike the balance

between more abundant housing and political realities.

When I fly into Phoenix, which I did recently just for this podcast,

you notice everything's pretty spread out.

And it doesn't seem like there's any real shortage of land for building houses. So why would the state want to get involved with the process of

rejiggering or giving property owners the ability to rejigger their

commercial properties to convert them to

more than just commercial use? Right, and it's uh, you know, the idea of like we said, you came into the Arizona and to Phoenix,

you see all this land everywhere.

And it's something a lot of people don't know is, I think we have a 13% of our properties

actually owned privately or the state.

Everything else is federally owned, right?

This is a big difference between the West Coast and the East Coast. East Coast, you have, you know, everybody, you know, tons of property that's that's private, but you

come out west, you have national parks, and you have everything that's owned by BLM and

the feds. And so we do really have a problem. You have a lot of land, but a lot of it's not

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