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Best of Cato Daily Podcast: Ben and Jerry and the Campaign to End Qualified Immunity

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Politics, News Commentary, 424708, Libertarian, Markets, Cato, News, Immigration, Peace, Policy, Government, Defense

4.6949 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Caleb O. Brown hosted the Cato Daily Podcast for nearly 18 years, producing well over 4000 episodes. He has gone on to head Kentucky’s Bluegrass Institute. This is one among the best episodes produced in his tenure, selected by the host and listeners.


Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are the icons better known for Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. Now they’re focusing their notoriety on ending qualified immunity. Ben, Jerry, and Cato’s Jay Schweikert comment on the campaign to end the powerful, court-invented doctrine that shields public officials from accountability.


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0:00.0

This is longtime Cater Daily podcast host, Caleb Brown. After thousands of episodes over nearly 18 years,

0:05.7

I've moved on from the Cater Daily podcast, but in the interim, I, along with some of you, have selected some favorites.

0:12.8

I hope they resonate with our current moment and continue to spark the desire to defend liberty.

0:18.4

Thank you for listening.

0:21.8

This is the Cater Daily podcast for Friday, February 12, 2021. I'm Caleb Brown. There is hope

0:28.0

for an end to qualified immunity. Now, two new advocates have begun a campaign to end the Supreme

0:33.7

Court's wholly invented doctrine that protects cops from civil liability when they violate your rights.

0:40.8

Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are the two halves of the ice cream icon Ben and Jerry's.

0:46.9

They've launched the campaign to end qualified immunity.

0:50.3

We spoke with Cato's Jay Schweiker last week.

0:53.2

I want to make note of one thing in particular, and this is meant to be a compliment to you,

0:58.4

two gentlemen, which is Cato and Ben and Jerry are on the opposite side of another high-profile

1:04.3

issue, and that's campaign finance.

1:06.9

You guys argue very forcefully to get money out of politics. Most Cato scholars don't take that view. But here we are talking and agreeing on one of the most important issues facing America today. And this last year has really brought that issue into sharp relief. And that's qualified immunity. So either Ben or Jerry,

1:29.8

whichever one of you want to take this, why this issue? You know, I think that so many people

1:36.4

have been outraged when they see police murdering, unarmed black people. And they're police, uh, murdering unarmed black people.

1:46.9

And, uh,

1:47.7

and they're saying, you know,

1:49.3

how can that possibly be? And,

1:51.6

and then they see that the cop gets off,

1:54.2

gets off scot free or,

1:56.5

you know,

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