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The Audio Long Read

Best of 2025 … so far: ‘Look, they’re getting skin!’: are we right to strive to save the world’s tiniest babies?

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Every Wednesday and Friday in August we will publish some of our favourite audio long reads of 2025, in case you missed them, with an introduction from the editorial team to explain why we’ve chosen it. This week, from January: doctors are pushing the limits of science and human biology to save more extremely premature babies than ever before. But when so few survive, are we putting them through needless suffering? By Sophie McBain. Read by Chloe Pirrie. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:09.9

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0:12.6

The UK podcast and audio industry is one of the fastest growing parts of the creative industries.

0:18.0

It's shaping culture, driving innovation and delivering real commercial growth,

0:22.5

and yet it lacks representation at government level. That means no voice when it counts.

0:28.0

It's time to change that. Support our campaign to give podcasting and audio a real voice where it

0:33.5

matters at the heart of decision-making for the UK's creative economy.

0:42.8

Visit audiouk.org.org, sign our open letter and get involved.

0:45.5

This has been a message from Audio UK. Hello, my name is Claire Longrig and I'm Deputy Editor of the Guardian Longreed.

1:01.2

This summer, we want to bring you our top picks of the year so far on the audio long read.

1:06.7

Today I wanted to introduce a piece by Sophie McBain titled, Look, they're Getting Skin. Are we right to save the world's tiniest babies?

1:16.9

The headline gives you a sense of the strange world we're in, where medicine has gone

1:21.5

beyond our understanding of what is possible, and extremely premature babies can survive

1:26.6

being born at 23 or even 22 weeks.

1:30.3

As you can imagine, the experience of parents of very premature babies is incredibly frightening

1:36.3

as they and the doctors do their utmost to save tiny babies born before their lungs and brains are fully developed.

1:43.3

Sophie speaks to couples who describe the terror and the hope,

1:47.4

but also the anxiety for these tiny babies wired up to machines for the first weeks of their lives.

1:53.8

The parents are thrown into the desperate work of trying to improve the baby's life chances,

1:58.6

while wrestling with the agony of whether or how much the babies are

2:02.6

suffering.

2:03.6

On the frontiers of new medicine, we encounter the tension between what science can achieve

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