BEST OF 2025: Interviews - Part Two
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 January 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
It’s officially 2026! Happy New Year - we hope your head is OK… In this bonus episode, we revisit Jane and Fi’s conversations with Joanna Lumley, Rob Rinder, and Gary Numan. Enjoy!
If you find yourself at a bit of a loose end after this, why not go and listen to our latest playlist, titled “I’m in the cupboard at Christmas”: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ
We’ll be back on Monday the 5th of January.
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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury
Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another off-air Christmas special. |
| 0:10.5 | Earlier this year, I had the chance to sit down with Dame Joanna Lumley, actor, author, campaigner, best known to many as Patsy and absolutely fabulous, |
| 0:20.7 | to talk about her new book called |
| 0:22.4 | My Book of Treasures, which is a personal anthology of writing, poetry, and a few hard-won |
| 0:28.2 | words of wisdom. I began by asking the question, we were all thinking, how does she achieve |
| 0:33.5 | that unmistakable husky voice? Well, I'm 112 now and I think my voice has come down. |
| 0:39.1 | I mean, I did make an effort because I think I know from recordings, when I was younger, |
| 0:43.8 | it was higher and it was a bit further back. And I knew that that probably wouldn't last. |
| 0:48.6 | And so I thought that it had to be sort of trimmed down a bit, trim, so now I'm like an old smoker, |
| 0:53.6 | I'm not this fair. Yeah, well, tell me about the fay eggs, they laugh. There is a lovely piece that you've included in the book, and we'll come on to the choices of the book in a moment, but it's an essay that David Hockney wrote in defence of smoking. He's so funny and so candid. What I love about Hockney is he's rather like |
| 1:11.3 | his paintings. It's literally there's no artifice to any of it. It's just blazing and open and |
| 1:17.6 | funny and humane really. He's just saying really all this panicking about smoking, about the people |
| 1:24.2 | who die from smoking. He said, what about the people who die from not smoking? And he makes a very good point that he's had three doctors who've told him not to smoke and they're all dead. You and smoking, though, I mean, I think if we conjuring up an image of some of your recent work, you're a fagg out of your mouth all the time. But is it true that once on set you fainted |
| 1:44.7 | because you'd had to smoke so much doing the tapes? |
| 1:47.3 | No, what I had to do is I had to run downstairs on the set. |
| 1:49.7 | This is in front of an audience |
| 1:50.7 | because we recorded all absolutely fabulous live in front of an audience. |
| 1:55.0 | I had to run downstairs saying, |
| 1:57.9 | swearing about a taxi driver because he wouldn't have smoking in the cab. |
| 2:01.7 | And I had four cigarettes in sticking out there. And Jennifer, Edina, lit them. And perhaps he was |
| 2:07.4 | sucking like this, inhaling. So I lit four cigarettes simultaneously. And that was funny and everything. |
| 2:13.4 | But one of the cameras was in the wrong place. And they said, could you do it again, please, Joanna? |
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