I'm going to be a we're a mugging bag I have to do it. I have the mug in full.

Me too.

The mug is slang.

I am in for it for.

And I have to set. This is hell.

And I am your bitter blind, broke,

gap-tooth radio show, live streaming and podcast host Chuck Mertz, producing is Will Ipin, and joining

him in the producers' booth is Rebecca Riddenauer.

The most surprising thing to me about the interviews, listeners listeners and staff have selected for our

ongoing series of best of 2023 interviews is that some of them are the most

in-depth and longest interviews we did all year.

Go figure.

Our listener and staff wants to hear the longest interviews we did all year,

so let's get right to today's best of 2023 discussion from June 14th.

When we spoke with historian Joe Goldie, who was on to talk with us about her Boston Review article,

The Earth for Man Redistriest, wow that was harder to say than I thought, was once central to global development efforts and it should be today which is adapted from her book

The Long Land War, the Global Struggle for Occupancy Rights.

After we play our interview with Joe, we will hear from

another historian, our very own Dr.

Seab Vupor, who will deliver another past inside the present when he provides us

with the historical context from the past so we can have a better understanding of our present.

Will, what's Seab talking about this week?

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