When that happens, when you have a brush with death like that, and you don't know,

am I going to close my eyes and open them in the next world? You don't know.

This becomes very relevant, you know. All of a sudden the idea of heaven is not

some ephemeral, you know, vague kind of idea that you think about maybe once in a

while, it becomes the dominant thought in your mind and so I thought you

know I believe based on the Bible as a Christian what happens when we die but I'm also

a skeptic that's Lee Strobel and he's with us once again for another best of 2023 episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly.

Thanks for joining us. I'm John Fuller.

You know, John Lee is so good at digging deeper trying to find that treasure and he did that as a journalist and in essence he applied those very skills to at first to disprove the resurrection of Jesus only to find that he was overwhelmed with the evidence

for it.

And we heard that last time, if you miss that, get the download or get the app for your smartphone.

It was really good and you want to hear it.

And today we're going to continue that discussion related to his book, The Case for Heaven.

And I'm telling, I know someone's out there going,

Jim, you sound so excited about this.

I am.

And I'm animated because I think this is the whole

ball of wax, so to speak, you know, if we're going to just kind of get through the motions

here on earth and not be enthusiastic about what's ahead of us, getting to heaven, interacting

with the Lord personally, hopefully being able to ask questions like how do galaxies work?

What was that one?

You know, my mind goes everywhere and I'm like a little child.

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