Bessel van der Kolk: Our Bodies Keep Score

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Everything Happens Studios

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.8 • 4.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

When something truly awful happens, we can’t forget. That memory isn’t just stored in our brains. Our bodies keep the score too. Researcher and psychiatrist Bessel van der Kolk has spent his life studying the affects of trauma on adults and children. In this eye-opening conversation, Kate and Bessel address the nature of trauma, how helplessness and agency affect our experiences, and ways to get unstuck. CW: trauma, PTSD To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Kate Boehler and this is Everything Happens.
0:04.0	I'm a historian, author, aggressively fast walker, but lately in a world that promises endless
0:10.9	progress, even now in a pandemic, I've realized I just need to be a person.
0:18.4	It's hard to give up on the feeling that the life you want is just out of reach, if
0:23.7	only you tried.
0:26.0	Make this food, find that relationship, just get the kids graduated or the parents this
0:31.6	kind of care.
0:33.4	Only then will I feel different, better, whole.
0:39.3	But that's not the way this works.
0:42.1	When I was 35, I was diagnosed with stage war cancer, and here's the very fun thing
0:47.1	about that.
0:48.4	The world loves you better when you are shiny, when you are cheerful, when you still
0:53.7	believe that your best life now is right around the corner.
0:57.9	I've written multiple books on the history of the idea that you can always fix your life,
1:03.1	so I'm going to be the one to say it.
1:05.7	There are some things we can change and some things we can't, and it's okay that life
1:12.0	isn't always getting better.
1:14.7	We can have beauty and meaning, community and love, and we will need each other if we're
1:21.2	going to tell the truth.
1:23.4	Life is a chronic condition, and there's no cure for being human.
1:34.0	We are all living in the past, at least every now and then.
1:38.4	Nostalgia, the stories we tell, the high school reunions that happen all the time on Facebook,
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