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I am very excited about this next guest because every time I have it on the podcast,

I cannot get, you guys know why I push, I just cannot get the data I wanted.

And then all of a sudden, I say, let me put you on stage at SaaS Open,

and he says, well, we actually just had a big transaction.

I'll come to SAS Open.

We'll talk about it.

That's all I'm going to say.

Please tell me, welcome to this stage.

Joe from Issue.

Joe, come on up.

I'm going to just see you, my friend.

Thank you for the water.

I'm going to keep chatting while I ask you questions, and I'm going to grab my coffee while you make yourself comfortable.

First of all, go ahead.

I should change the name of this conference to the resilience open, because all we're hearing about is like one experience of resilience after the next.

It's sort of the core of these businesses.

Anyway, I also want to tell you guys, and Joe, I hope you don't mind me doing this, but we'll get to this later because conference is not always just about business, but he actually

feels great. He just sounds terrible. We'll talk about that in a little bit. We'll let that be an

open loop. I have vocal cord. No, nervous. Joe, this is be an open loop. I have vocal cord. No. This is called an open loop and

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