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to laugh, connect, and feel empowered with Caitlin and her guests as they sip wine, lots of wine.

And get candid. They save vulnerability creates connection. So save the highlight reel for Instagram

because when we're among vinyls, there's no filter. It's time to unwind. Here's your host,

Caitlin Bristo. For those listening, what you don't know is Ben is in studio with

Spaden Sparrows duct taped to his hands. Just like he always dreamt, a real childhood dream of his

that he said on last podcast was on his bucket list to be, did you call it Edward Spaden Sparrows

Hens? Is that what it was? I did. Because it was usually what was the old one? The

four Edward 40 hands. That was the college. The college. Yeah. And now you have Ben

walked into the studio with Spaden Sparrows Hens and really committed to it. And he's not taking

them off. No, he's just drinking the bathroom. There will definitely be footage on Instagram

about this for those wondering. And also for people who are listening to today's episode,

but didn't get a chance to listen to the last episode with Ben. First of all, how are you missing

an episode about the vine? Go back and listen. It was released on September 6th. It's so inspiring

and it explains why we are back here today. But basically last time you were on the pod, we talked

about how important it is to write down your bucket list. I can't take you seriously.

I was just this is my thinking face. I mean, I like it. I am going to get used to it. But for right

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