Reason seems to be in increasingly short supply, which is unfortunate considering some of the messes that we found ourselves in will only be solved through reasonable thought and ideas and people.

Also unfortunate is that those who are the loudest seem to be the most unreasonable and only wish to perpetuate the problems that we have in modern society and culture.

Today I'm joined by the one and only Dave Rubin, New York Times bestselling author of Don't Burn This Book, thinking for yourself in an age of unreason.

What I like most about Dave and also this conversation is that he's willing to talk about the things that you're not supposed to talk about, including the myth of the gender gap, why hate speech should be protected speech, why not everyone is a Nazi as perpetuated by what he calls the quote unquote lefties,

and ultimately how to be reasonable in a world that seems to be anything but.

Gentlemen what is going on today my name is Ryan Mickler and I am the host and the founder of this podcast and the Order of Man Movement. I want to welcome you here, I want to welcome you back regardless of how long you've been listening to the podcast.

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That's what we're all about here. So we've got Dave Rubin on the podcast today we've had Jocke Willink, Grant Cardone, Andy Fricilla, David Goggins, men the lineup is phenomenal when I think back about who we've interviewed over the past five years, I feel very blessed and fortunate to have interviewed the incredible men that I have.

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Alright guys let me introduce you to Dave if you don't already know who he is I'm sure many of you are already familiar with him and probably have some preconceived notions good or bad about who he is and what he stands for.

I've been following him for some time now and I'm actually pretty fascinated with his journey from a left leaning progressive to free thinking classical liberal and I didn't really fully understand what it meant to be a classical liberal so he actually explains that in the podcast and very fascinating.

He's the host of the Ruben report he spent almost two years touring and opening for his friend and mentor Jordan Peterson his background is actually in standup comedy but he's been extremely extremely successful and become well known for his podcast and again he's interviewed guys like Jordan Peterson Sam Harris Ben Shapiro Larry King Dan Crenshaw Adam Corolla just so many more so his lineup is amazing as well.

Anyways he's here to talk with us today about thinking freely and openly about some of our cultures and most polarizing subjects enjoy.

Dave what's going on man glad to connect looking forward to this conversation today it's good to be with you I am talking a lot these days but just had a little water had a little coffee before that focused very perfect.

Any idea on how many how many interviews you've done over the past week or two.

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