Let's make this like a power punch but like ring our our secret stuff. Yeah, cool. I'm into that. Okay. I'll just ask you

But there are some things that would be fun just because I'm here. Yeah, I mean, I know you do podcasts, but I'm gonna ask a couple questions. Okay. Oh my God.

Welcome back to the Jasmine Starshow. I am with my co-host Marcus Murphy. And this has been a good run. I have felt so good

to the conversations that we had. Yeah, and I kind of wanted to take an opportunity to number one. Thank you for this. And let's

like bring this full circle. I'm so happy that we had that conversation on the front end because when Johnny mentioned interviewing at Yelp, like listeners were able to put that in context. Yeah, there are a few different times. Yeah. And then Matt was talking about LinkedIn learning. And like people were on the journey with us. And so I think that that was really good. And we got to like know you. And we got to know the dream that you put up on the dream wall. And I think later in this episode, I'm gonna pull out a favor. And I want you to practice your late night interview skills.

I already have 20 questions for you. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I want to start though. Like now we're up to speed. And so we left the story where you were doing consulting. Right. And then you were like, I need to find myself. And you now, I mean, I jokingly, like, I poke fun. And I do it in love. But you're a CEO of a bonafide bomb business. And I want to start about like that origin story. Right. You know, I feel like it's actually something that maybe you relate to as well. There was a bit of personality in there. Like a bit of like where I was becoming a personality saying, okay, I'm a speaker.

I'm going to shows. And that was a big part of who I am. And then there was a new identity. At one, I stopped posting on LinkedIn, which I don't know if anybody really noticed, but I didn't for almost a year and a half to the point where, like, LinkedIn was going, are you okay?

Sure. You're right. Because you were a major contributor in this way or just some of that circuit that I used to do. But I felt like I needed to figure out what it's like to be a technology CEO.

And I spent a ton of time just interviewing, finding other people, like, there's a couple of pivotal people that are worth shouting out, but David Cancel, he started a company called Drift and they grew like a rocket ship.

And I just look at these people and my, how are you doing this and so gracefully and all that stuff? Guess what? They're not. They're not at all. They're just people who have put on the new identity that that's who they are now. And they're still using that vehicle to accomplish their goals. So it doesn't matter whether it's a technology company for me or it was an event or it was me speaking.

It just had to be able to be the vehicle to get me to where I wanted to go. And I think that's where the story probably is now is that I am developing something that aligns with where I ultimately want to go in life that I have a fun time building with people that I actually care about.

And it's led us to five, which is in the sports world, a closed source community application for athletic organizations. And it sounds super boring to say like that, but it's a lot more fun because it is.

It's like who puts business and sports, like business education and sports together. But if you look at the alternative, the worst catastrophic things are happening to athletes in the world is because they are under resourced and disconnected and isolated alone.

Okay. Okay. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. So we went to like the fancy stuff, but we need to have a moment and give a shout out to our girl, like, Riri, because Rihanna disappears. Yeah. And then she comes back.

Oh, please, let me be Rihanna. I'll take that out.

So you kind of went silent to go back and find out like the new version. And so I kind of would just want to like honor that space because so few people actually have the courage, like, and for people who don't know, like, you were like a voice on LinkedIn, like a force actually.

And so for you to go quiet, it's for you to do like the inner work. And then can I repeat back what I think when you talk about the five, like what that actually is.

Yeah, sure. Please.

So athletes have been good most of their life at their particular sport.

Great at it. And so then they get to a point and then they get people around them who know more than they do.

And then it's very common to advocate a lot of the other stuff so that they can focus on what their skill is. And that is to be an athlete and that is to be like a standout, right.

And then a lot of athletes get to a point in time where like they're entirely different people, like they have more money, they have more resources, they have more following that overnight.

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