Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza: Drs. Bruce Fisk and Ross Wagner
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🗓️ 22 December 2025
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Dr. Bruce Fisk (PhD Duke) is Professor of New Testament, Westmont College (retired); Senior Research Fellow, Network of Evangelicals for the Middle East. Dr. Ross Wagner (PhD Duke) Associate Professor of New Testament, Duke Divinity School. Ross and Bruce are co-editors of the recently released, Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza (Cascade, 2025).
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| 0:00.0 | We're offering a limited Christmas discount on registration for the Exiles of Babylon Conference, |
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| 0:31.4 | sale ends December 31st. And I can't wait to see you all there. So there's a, there's a lot of lament in the book, but there's also, I think there's a lot of hopefulness. |
| 0:42.8 | And again, I'm amazed that some of the most hopeful statements come from people in the land. |
| 0:48.1 | Palestinian Christians who are confident that, in fact, the way of Jesus is the way for humans to flourish and that the kingdom |
| 0:57.4 | of God comes not through violence but through faithful disciples. |
| 1:06.2 | Hey friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology Not. My two guests today, actually |
| 1:10.7 | one and a half. You'll see what I mean in a second. Are Dr. Bruce Fist. Hey, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology, not my two guests today. Actually, |
| 1:17.1 | one and a half. You'll see what I mean in a second. Are Dr. Bruce Fisk, who has a PhD from Duke University and is a professor of New Testament at Westmont College. He's retired, but that's where he used |
| 1:21.4 | to teach. And he's a senior research fellow for the network of evangelicals for the Middle East |
| 1:27.1 | and a co-editor of being Christian after |
| 1:29.3 | the desolation of Gaza, which he co-wrote with my other guest, Dr. Ross Wagner, who also has a PhD |
| 1:36.0 | from Duke University. He's associate professor of New Testament at Duke University, Duke Divinity School, |
| 1:41.8 | sorry, and he is co-editor along with Bruce of the book Being Christian after the Desolation |
| 1:48.5 | of Gaza, which is the topic of our conversation. |
| 1:50.9 | I do want to say that both of these guys, I'm not sure, you know, maybe their names aren't |
| 1:57.6 | familiar to you, Bruce Fisk and Ross Wagner are like top-notch renowned New Testament scholars. |
| 2:05.8 | I mean, I remember reading their works and articles when I was doing my PhD. |
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