Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates. On tonight's show,

I have a very special guest coming to us all the way from Ireland. He's on the west coast of Ireland.

I usually talk to people who are on the East Coast in the Dublin area. But his name is Sean McLeod.

You're a MacLod, right?

How do you pronounce your last name?

McLeod.

McLeod.

Of McLeod, okay.

So it's a McLeod.

As in the sky.

Gotcha.

Sean McLeod, the title of his book about the Beatles is,

behind the wall of illusion, the religious, occult, and esoteric world of the Beatles.

So, Mr. McLeod, are you there?

I am. I'm here, William. Yeah.

Excellent. Thanks for taking time to talk about the subject.

You've also written a couple other books about music as well.

One is tied to leaders of the pack, girl groups from the 1960s in their influence on popular culture.

That's published out of Roman Littlefield from 2015 and then last year Phil Spector, the sound of the 60s, 2017.

But tonight we're going to talk about the Beatles. It's still an important subject.

There's a lot of, like the title of the book says, a lot of religious, occult, esoteric aspects to possibly the most influential music band in history, you know, a global phenomenon. So just to get started, maybe you can talk a little bit about yourself, your background, Sean, and then, you know,

take the listener to where the Beatles came from in Liverpool.

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