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🗓️ 26 February 2023
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Annie Pearl is the Chief Product Officer at Calendly. Previously, she was Chief Product Officer at Glassdoor, as well as Director of Product Management at Box. She was named one of the most influential women in Bay Area business by the San Francisco Business Times. In today’s episode, Annie shares three paths into product management and advice on how to get your foot in the door. She also gives us an inside look at how Calendly’s product teams are structured, how they transitioned from solely PLG to adding a sales team and unlocking new growth levers, how they do planning, and much more.
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Referenced:
• How to send a calendar invite with Calendly: https://calendly.com/blog/how-to-send-a-calendar-invite
• Google’s APM program: https://careers.google.com/programs/apm/
• The 15 Best Associate and Rotational Product Manager Programs: https://medium.com/agileinsider/product-management-digest-apm-3c2631683139
• Playing to Win: How Strategy Really Works: https://www.amazon.com/Playing-Win-Strategy-Really-Works/dp/142218739X/
• Confluence: https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence
• Aha: https://www.aha.io/
• Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/
• Loom: https://www.loom.com/
• Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
• Pendo: https://go.pendo.io/
• Tope Awotona on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bawotona/
• The Skip podcast: https://www.skip.community/
• Skip Community on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/skip-community-for-cpos/
• Nikhyl Singhal on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhyl/
• Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap and Others Don’t: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996
• Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products: https://www.amazon.com/Hooked-How-Build-Habit-Forming-Products/dp/0241184835/
• 20VC podcast: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/
• Sing 2 on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81475311
• Miro: https://miro.com/
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Annie’s background
(03:50) How to send a Calendly invite without feeling awkward
(06:04) How to transition to product work from a non-technical career
(09:53) APM programs
(10:52) The characteristics of internal-transfer PMs
(13:26) How Calendly structures product teams
(14:57) Why Annie hired a Head of Design
(16:58) How Calendly structures product teams
(19:07) OKRs at Calendly
(21:02) Changes made at Calendly to improve execution and shipping
(22:45) The challenges with narrowing Calendly’s customer base and adding sales
(25:21) Where 70% of new Calendly users come from
(26:17) The transition from PLG to sales
(29:23) How to build a great relationship with your sales team
(31:52) Planning and prioritization at Calendly
(38:14) Strategy documents at Calendly
(39:39) Calendly’s product stack
(40:21) How Calendly got their first 1,000 users
(43:36) The surprising new growth levers at Calendly
(46:05) Fun traditions
(48:43) “Focus wisely” and other aspects of Calendly’s culture
(52:07) Learnings from Box and Glassdoor
(54:57) The Skip Community
(58:10) Lightning round
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0:00.0 | Strategy is really just an integrated set of choices to outline how you're going to win in whatever marketplace you choose, right? |
0:08.0 | And so a good product strategy is going to answer questions like what's're sort of winning aspiration but maybe more |
0:14.6 | importantly where are you going to play you know what are the markets you're going to go |
0:17.4 | after what are the segments of those markets what are the personas in the |
0:20.6 | segments of those markets and then how are you going to win with a target audience. |
0:24.1 | Welcome to Lenny's podcast where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts |
0:31.5 | to learn from their hard-won experiences |
0:33.4 | building and growing today's most successful products. Today my guest is Annie Pearl. |
0:38.4 | Annie is currently Chief Product Officer at Callenley. |
0:41.8 | Before that she was Chief Product Officer at Callinley, before that she was Chief Product Officer at Glass Door, and |
0:45.0 | before that she was Director of Product Management at Box. |
0:48.3 | She's also a member of Skip, a community, or Chief Product Officers, and she's on the board of two different companies. |
0:54.0 | In our conversation, we cover a lot of ground, including how Call and Lee built product, |
0:58.0 | how Call and Lee has grown, including the wild story of how they got their first thousand users |
1:03.0 | and also how they built a sales team on top of what historically has been a very |
1:06.6 | product-led growth company. |
1:08.4 | Annie also shares a ton of great advice on how to get into product management. |
1:12.3 | I learned a ton from Annie, and I know you'll too. |
1:15.2 | Annie also shares a few killer tips for using Callinley, |
1:17.9 | which I loved. |
1:19.1 | And so with all that, I bring you any pearl |
1:21.3 | for a short word from our wonderful sponsors. |
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