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BEFORE OPPENHEIMER'S GADGET: 4/8: Black Snow: Curtis LeMay, the Firebombing of Tokyo, and the Road to the Atomic Bomb by James M. Scott

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🗓️ 30 July 2023

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BEFORE OPPENHEIMER'S GADGET: 4/8: Black Snow: Curtis LeMay, the Firebombing of Tokyo, and the Road to the Atomic Bomb by James M. Scott

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Seven minutes past midnight on March 10, 1945, nearly 300 American B-29s thundered into the skies over Tokyo. Their payloads of incendiaries ignited a firestorm that reached up to 2,800 degrees, liquefying asphalt and vaporizing thousands; sixteen square miles of the city were flattened and more than 100,000 men, women, and children were killed

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0:00.0

At TFL, we're making journeys safer for everyone, and that includes improving safety on London's roads.

0:07.4

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0:12.3

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0:16.8

serious injuries by 24%. That is how we're making journeys in London safer and brighter for everyone.

0:24.8

Such TFL improvement plan to the Mayor of London and TFL every journey matters.

0:30.0

And James Scott is the author, Curtis Lemay, is not satisfied and believes he will also be fired

0:36.1

as Hansewaz by Hap Arnold, because the strategic bombing is not improving. The B-29s are not in any

0:44.0

way surprising the Japanese, the Japanese are demonstrating that though they're blockaded,

0:49.6

though they're losing, they're going to fight to the last, they will not surrender.

0:54.0

What is to be done? Lemay, I picture him lying in his quanson hunt, looking at the ceiling.

1:00.2

Do we know exactly what it was or is it him pondering Dresden and the news from Dresden? Did that do

1:08.1

it, James? No, actually Lemay probably begins even earlier than that, because Lemay had looked at

1:14.4

the results of the July 1943 fire bomb at Hamburg, which was actually more destructive than Dresden.

1:20.4

Everybody knows of Dresden today. And for Hamburg, 45 was Dresden, so it's about this period.

1:26.3

Yes, Dresden is February 45 at Hamburg burns in the summer of 43, and Lemay was in Europe then,

1:32.6

and he studied the after-action results of that. So he knew what fire could do to a city.

1:38.9

And you're right, Lemay spent much of his time thinking at night. In fact, if you read his personal

1:43.5

letters home, he's always writing about his lack of sleep, because he's literally up all night

1:48.3

thinking, trying to figure out how to do this, and said that, that's when he kind of comes to the

1:53.6

realization that what Hansel was doing, high altitude daylight precision bombing, it's simply

1:59.5

not going to work. And if he's going to attack, successfully attack, Japanese cities,

2:04.8

he's going to have to have a radical rethinking of American strategy. And he ultimately settles on a

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