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Noble Blood

Beethoven's Immortal Beloved, Part 2

Noble Blood

iHeartPodcasts and Grim & Mild

Society & Culture, History

4.813.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Beethoven wrote an effusive, romantic letter, to a woman identified only as his "Immortal Beloved." Her (or his!) identity remains a matter of debate, but it turns out Beethoven had some other "beloveds" as well...

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.2

If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, the saying it.

0:09.2

This is for the ones who had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft, and whole.

0:14.9

The unwanted sorority is where black women, fims, and gender expansive survivors of sexual violence,

0:20.2

rewrite the rules on healing,

0:21.7

support, and what happens after. And I'm your host and co-president of this organization, Dr.

0:27.0

Leah Trettae. Listen to the unwanted sorority, new episodes every Thursday on the IHeartRadio app,

0:32.9

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of IHeart Radio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Manky.

0:42.7

Listener discretion advised.

0:47.8

I weep when I think that you will probably not receive the first news of me until Saturday.

0:54.0

As much as you love me, I love

0:56.4

you even more deeply, but, but never hide yourself from me. Good night, as one bathing, I must go to

1:04.5

sleep. Oh, God, so near, so far, is not our love a true heavenly edifice, but also firm like the firmament?

1:14.8

This is a widely accepted translation of a piece of the second part of Beethoven's famous

1:22.4

immortal beloved letter. This portion in particular weaves together passionate language and specific references

1:30.4

in a way that provides context clues and almost two centuries later still sparks debates

1:37.6

between musicologists, historians, and ardent Beethoven aficionados. In the spirit of classic sonata form,

1:47.3

let's do a quick recap of what we covered in part one.

1:51.7

The immortal beloved letter was found in Beethoven's Vienna estate

1:56.2

after he died in 1827,

1:59.0

and published in 1840 by his secretary, who likely misdated the letter and

2:05.6

misidentified its romantic mark. Further research showed that Beethoven almost certainly wrote the

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