Beeper's fight to break Apple's stronghold on messaging with Eric Migicovsky | E1892
This Week in Startups
Jason Calacanis
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🗓️ 5 February 2024
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Todays show:
Beeper's Eric Migicovsky joins Jason to discuss Beeper's mission of providing a universal chat app (1:32), Apple blocking Beeper Mini after just 3 days (13:35), fighting back against Apple as a startup founder (18:31), and much more!
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Beeper’s Eric Migicovsky joins Jason
(1:32) Beeper and its mission of providing a universal chat app
(6:30) How Apple locks people into iMessage and makes it hard to switch from iPhone
(12:11) Curotec - Check out http://www.curotec.com/twist and get $5000 off
(13:35) Beeper Mini's release and Apple blocking Beeper Mini after just 3 days
(18:31) Fighting back against Apple as a startup founder
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(22:18) The fight against Apple and thoughts on the outcome
(28:01) Prior experience dealing with platform restrictions at Pebble and the differences in timelines between startups and government regulation
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(36:17) Apple's response to recent court rulings requiring App Store changes
(38:54) Speculation on whether Apple's AR glasses will succeed
(41:35) Eric's vision for the future with open protocols for messaging and Beeper's business model
Mentioned on the show:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/9/23995150/beeper-imessage-android-apple-statement
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/getpebble/pebble-2-time-2-and-core-an-entirely-new-3g-ultra
https://37signals.com/podcast/this-again-apple/
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Check out: https://www.beeper.com/mini
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| 0:00.0 | It's very hard for a startup to say I'm going to choose not to sell or make my app on an iPhone because I don't agree with them. |
| 0:06.0 | It's almost like we're as you know app makers or you know creators we have to build for where the people are and when more than 50% of the population is on a particular platform |
| 0:16.8 | It's hard to give that up but at the same time like if we don't speak up if we don't share our experience and if we don't explain that you know |
| 0:24.0 | creating new products is harder because of the fact that one company controls |
| 0:28.1 | this ecosystem it won't change. This week in startups is brought to you by |
| 0:35.0 | Chirotech. |
| 0:36.0 | Are you one of those companies that knows you need to be using AI, |
| 0:39.0 | but you're not even sure where to start? |
| 0:41.0 | Well, then you need Chirototech. They are AI experts and |
| 0:45.3 | they're offering Twist listeners an AI strategy roadmap tailored to your |
| 0:49.2 | business for $5,000. That's 50% off the normal cost just for telling them we sent you. Check out |
| 0:57.0 | Kerotec.com slash twist and get 5,000 dollars off. Northwest Registered Agent will form your company fast, |
| 1:05.5 | give you the documents you'd need to open a business bank account, |
| 1:08.8 | and more. |
| 1:09.8 | Visit Northwest Registered Agent. |
| 1:12.3 | com slash Twist to get a 60% Visit Northwest registered agent dot com |
| 1:13.0 | to get a 60% discount on your next LLC. |
| 1:17.2 | And Ketone IQ is a clean energy boost |
| 1:21.1 | without sugar or caffeine. Get 30% off your first subscription order of |
| 1:26.1 | ketone IQ at HVMN.com slash twist. |
| 1:31.6 | All right everybody welcome back to this weekend startups as you know |
| 1:35.0 | Apple is the most valuable company in the world |
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