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Becoming White in America

Radio Atlantic

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2018

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In her new book Futureface, Alex Wagner writes that “immigration raises into relief some of our most basic existential questions: Who am I? Where do I belong? And in that way, it’s inextricably tied to an exploration of American identity.” In the book, Alex explores her own American identity – daughter of a Burmese immigrant mother and a small-town Irish Catholic father – and asks how true the stories we grow up with really are. Along with co-hosts Matt and Jeff, Alex is joined by The Atlantic’s deputy politics editor Adam Serwer to discuss the tangled intersections of history, heritage, family, race, and nationality. Is America truly a melting pot? Can nationalism be liberal? And is that stalwart American immigrant story just a history written by the victors? Links - Futureface (Alex Wagner, 2018) - “The Nationalist's Delusion” (Adam Serwer, November 20, 2017) - “America Is Not a Democracy” (Yascha Mounk, March 2018 Issue) - ”The End of Identity Liberalism” (Mark Lilla, New York Times, November 18, 2016) - ”How Can Liberals Reclaim Nationalism?” (Yascha Mounk, New York Times, March 3, 2018) - “Why Are We Surprised When Buddhists Are Violent?” (Dan Arnold and Alicia Turner, New York Times, March 5, 2018) - “The Americans Our Government Won’t Count” (Alex Wagner, New York Times, March 30, 2018) - “Huapango” by José Pablo Moncayo (South West German Radio Kaiserslautern Orchestra, 2007) - Black and White: Land, Labor, and Politics in the South (Timothy Thomas Fortune, 1884) - Pogrom: Kishinev and the Tilt of History (Steven Zipperstein, 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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At the crossroads of artistic insight and intellectual curiosity, we find the edge of reason.

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Dive into the heart of artistic inspiration, rooted in Enlightenment thinking, and discover how contemporary creators are holding a mirror up to society to reflect who we are, where we've been, and where we're headed.

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Join me, Jeff Chang, at the Edge of Reason, a new limited podcast from Atlantic

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Rethink, the branded content studio at the Atlantic, and Howzer and Worth.

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You've wondered what you would find if you trace the two threads of your ancestry,

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reaching back through the lives of your parents and their parents and their parents through the

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quilt of history. And so you pull the threads and what you unravel is the story of how our forebears made the world that we inherited.

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And how we might pass on a better one.

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This is Radio Atlantic. Joining me today in

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studio is my esteemed co-host Jeff hello.

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Hi Matt.

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And my other esteemed co-host in a studio in New York, Alex Wagner.

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Hello Alex.

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Hey Matt and Jeff.

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And we're delighted to be joined once again by Adam Serwer, editor and writer at the Atlantic.

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Adam, welcome.

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Thank you.

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Hi everybody.

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And hello to you all.

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No sound effects, please.

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This is a serious conversation. Sorry. Today we are discussing

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the family history of our own Alex Wagner. It's kind of weird actually.

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