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Lives Less Ordinary

Becoming Gamal, part 2: Behind the badge

Lives Less Ordinary

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.6814 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Gamal Turawa has lived many lives - but never fitted in.

First as a black British boy adopted into a white family, then hoodwinked by his father and eventually begging on the streets of Lagos - he was always on the margins. As an adult he joined London's Metropolitan Police, but instead of finding a home there, his differences were used to tear him down and humilate him. When Gamal finally hit rock bottom he decided to stop hiding and stand out.

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Presenter: Mobeen Azhar Producers: Charlie Towler and Harry Graham Editor: Laura Thomas

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

0:06.5

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:11.1

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

0:16.0

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

0:22.4

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

0:28.3

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience. And maybe that's you.

0:33.6

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

0:38.4

The Global Story provides fresh perspective on the stories that matter

0:43.2

with me Katia Adler and the BBC's worldwide network of journalists and reporters.

0:49.2

Coming soon from the BBC World Service.

0:52.1

Search for the global story wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

1:00.4

If you look back in the whole journey of my life,

1:04.4

everything was about wanting to belong.

1:07.0

I was desperate to belong somewhere.

1:13.6

And when you have that need to belong, you make certain sacrifices that you're not aware that you're making.

1:20.6

And sacrifices I made is that I gave up my identity.

1:26.6

Told racist jokes in the canteen

1:29.4

I went out and I stopped

1:32.2

searched as many black people as I could

1:34.5

because I wanted my colleagues to think

1:37.2

I'm not like them, I'm one of you.

1:39.3

I'm one of you.

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