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On today's episode, episode number 24, entitled, Becoming a Mixed Martial Arts Champion,

we chat with one of the best MMA

welter weights in the world, Carl, can you just tell our listeners about your background and how

you, like, began fighting? I know you started judo very early on. Can you just tell listeners

a little about that? Yeah, I was nine years old, and my cousin came to my house.

He's a couple years younger than me and started talking about him big that he can kick my

butt and stuff.

And I was like, you know, what do you mean you can kick my butt?

Well, I've been doing children and all this stuff.

And then we just started a guy talking and I told my dad I wanted to go

and my cousin's dad's like okay I'll take you with me on Monday you can sign up so they took me and sign up for

judah and rest of history cool and uh you competed from for years after that do you uh did you like

do like the Olympics or anything like that you Did you get really competitive in the judo?

Yeah, yeah.

I won, I won everything in the country and won nationals, junior nationals.

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