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I should have hit record.

That was gold.

Yeah, that was really good, Robin.

We're recording this episode of All Songs Considered on Monday morning.

The morning after what the Grammys like to tell us is music's biggest night.

Lars Gottridge.

Tremark.

I don't imagine.

You don't strike me as a Grammys kind of guy.

Do you watch the Grammys?

I think at a certain point in my life, I used to hate watch them.

Yeah.

And there was a point in my professional life where I had to somewhat pay attention to them. I suppose I probably still should. But you haven't? But I haven't because nobody's

told me that I need to. I actually watched them this time. Well, I watched most of them.

I maybe three quarters of the way through before I finally petered out and had to go to bed.

But it was probably the first time I've watched, and I'm not kidding, maybe 25 years.

I think the thing with these award shows, like all of them, Grammys, Oscars, Emmys, whatever,

you know, they're kind of silly. I know they matter a lot to the people who are getting the awards or just to be nominated.

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