Welcome to the Laverne Cox Show, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with IHeart Radio.

We're still not extending the care that we need to the people who are always going to be left out, who are always going to be, quote unquote, ugly.

And when I'm thinking about what do I want an ideal society to be? What I would want is even those people who

don't fit any beauty ideal, any standard, right, that you can have access to the care that you need.

Hello and welcome to the Laverine Cox Show.

I've become a huge consumer of YouTube content lately, and one of the YouTube channels I love is called For Harriet, which features the cultural commentary, interviews, and nuanced critical perspectives of Kimberly Foster, who centers the

experiences of black women. Kimberly Foster is a writer, cultural critic, and media contributor.

She's also the founder and editor-in-chief of For Harriet, a multi-platform digital community,

as well as a national live event series. Recognized as a leading voice

online by Teen Vogue and Huffington Post, Kimberly's video commentaries on current events have accumulated

millions of views and appeared on Black Women Own the Conversation. She always has her finger on the

pulse because she is part of the pulse, honey.

Kimberly made a video about beauty as a commodity that illuminated some of the thoughts I already had about the subject and made me think about so many other things.

On today's episode, we're going to be talking to the outspoken feminist and founder about beauty as capital.

I find her so inspiring and smart, and she always makes me think about something I hadn't

considered before. Please enjoy my conversation with Kimberly Foster.

Hello, Kimberly. Welcome to the podcast. How are you feeling today? I am great. First of all,

thanks so much for the invitation. I said I'm great, but that's always a lie, right? Like,

in COVID times, that's not real. But I'm okay. I'm thinking. Well, what's real? I am good.

I really value the fact that I have a job and I am not sick and my family is not sick.

But every once in a while I get a little sad because life is going by and I can't do the stuff I want to do, but it's okay. I'm okay.

I follow your channel, your YouTube channel. That's how I became aware of you and love it.

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